The two Barnes loads have almost an identical amount of wind drift, but the 7mm Rem Mag Nosler AccuBond load has a slight edge over the .300 Win Mag AccuBond load. I can see pros and cons for each cartridge. Re: 7mm STW vs 300 WBY Mag for long range elk/moose Although I love the STW, forget it unless you really like expensive components to reload. By Ron Spomer. Shooting game past 400 yards really isn't a good idea for anyone. I have killed elk with ,260 rem, 6.5 x 284, 270 win, 270 wsm, 7mm saum, 7mm rem mag, 300 wsm. Poor old things. So as a lot of others have already said; Either would be sufficient. vs. 7mm Rem. In 2004 I took my 99 .270 WSM and a light .375 H&H. 7mm Rem. Mag. The post-World War II era saw a return to the hunting fields, and a wave of cartridge development followed, with Winchester releasing the .264, .338 and .458 Winchester Magnums in the 1950s, all based on the belted Holland & Holland case shortened and blown out. Washington State. 1,002 Posts . There are so many great factory ammunition choices, that it’s hard to go wrong. Regardless of where your allegiances … Let’s look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. Both will work, granted. Some might agree the 7mm mag may be alittle flatter shooting if range is an issue but with either gun the projectile makes all the difference in range and energy. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .300 Winchester Magnum ammo rounds. 7mm Remington Magnum (7.2x64mm) 1. I have a 300wsm in a finnlight and it is a gem. My opinion is that the choice may heavily depend on what game animals you intend to hunt, allowing the bullet weights available dictate the logical choice. jwall I don't know how we have endured the nightmare. It's because nearly all gun manufacturers keep putting the WSM cartridges in short actions so you can't shoot low drag bullets. The guy was one of my elk-hunting mentors, a firm .30-06 guy, and he was serious. I think the question comes down to the gun on that one. I have also tested a variety of 30 cals, 300 win mag, 300 rum, 30-378, 30 Lapua, and so on. Discussion Starter • #1 • Mar 20, 2009. Personally I MUCH favor the 7mm Mag over the 300 WSM. Yeah, I heard to--about 40 years ago about the .270 Winchester. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations . Now for Elk I would much rather have more power to anchor an Elk before it gets a chance to get into … Comparing the two, the .300 Win. I'm looking at purchasing the .300 Rem. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. by Philip Massaro - A 160-grain 7mm Core-Lokt Ultra in a current load brings 1,580 foot-pounds to 400 yards – plenty to kill elk, but well shy of the 1,750 delivered by the.300’s 180. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. However, if you apply the same thinking to the .270, .308, or .30-06, it would limit their range to 300 yards were they reach the 1500 ft … The way I heard it, bullets from a 7mm RM are going so fast they don't have time to expand so they zip right through the animal. has an obvious weight advantage, topping out at 240 grains. I really prefer a 338 win mag. Actually, I've recovered a higher percentage of Barnes (and similar) bullets that Partitions--but on average have tended to use somewhat lighter Barnes etc. The belted cartridge is not going to be quite as accurate as a rimmed cartridge by design. M-700 in 7RM--a Sendero v.1 and it's a fine cartridge no doubt. The best scope for 7mm Rem Mag can make your 7mm Rem Mag more competitive and powerful. The logical bottom end for the .300 Winchester ranges between 130 and 150 grains, depending on bullet construction; the 7mm Rem. Whichever rifle I liked more. Ballistics comparison video between the 7mm Remington Magnum vs the 300 Winchester Magnum. Bullet: 7.2mm 4. Both will kill an elk. per sec. will supersede the velocities of the .30-06 Springfield; though the ’06 can use heavier bullets, the 7mm of equal weight will offer a better Sectional Density. I've only shot one elk with my .300 WSM. One thing the 300 Win mag has going for it is it will cycle a bit more smoothly on average. Both make a great choice for elk, deer, African plains game and smaller bears, and both have the capability to be made in a mountain rifle for sheep and goats. Also consider 300 Win Mag will have substantially more recoil and cost slightly more to reload. For me it would be the 7mm RM. I had an easy time parting with the 300 WSM cause of the 7mm. No surprise there, as both the 7mm and .308″ bore diameters have long been heralded as the two most versatile available, giving hunters all sorts of flexibility regarding the game animals they will handle. ChesterGolf. Thread Starter . is a hard hitting and accurate cartridge, offering a 150 fps velocity increase over the .30-06 Springfield. Neck: 8.0mm 5. On the west coast, most hunters use the 7mm Rem Mag for rifle elk season, so ammo and reloading supplies are more common. I have shot many deer with it, 4 elk and every one was dropped in it's tracks. In these 3 calibres I'd use 140 grain bullets in the 7MM-08, 165's in the 308, and 180's in the 300 Win Mag, and ( especially..) all with partition bullets from the Nosler brand. I used 180 gr. can use bullets of 120 grains, but things usually top out at 175 or 185 grains. In this cartridge comparison of the 7mm Rem Mag vs .300 Win Mag, we are dealing with two cartridges that each carry loyal users and often find themselves the subject of heated debate on numerous firearm forums and within hunting lodges. Mag. These calibers, along with similar calibers not evaluated (.264 Win Mag, .270 Wby Mag, 7mm WSM and 7mm Wby Mag) are optimally designed to take medium game at ranges beyond 300 yards. Most hunters probably agree that the 7mm Remington Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum are both fantastic choices for hunting a wide variety of big game, including bear. I have tested, owned, built and shot many 7 rem mags, 7mm-300 win mags, a few 7 stw's, a 7 RUM or two and others in the .284 family. It stayed a wildcat for over two decades until Remington—long famous for adopting wildcat cartridges like the .257 Roberts, .22-250 Remington, .25-06 Remington and .35 Whelen—made an honest cartridge out of the 7mm/308; in 1980, the 7mm-08 Remington saw the light of day. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. I’ve found that the versatility of bullet choice gives the .30s an advantage—if you appreciate the “one-gun” approach. Shoot him in the ear hole. I recently saw a rifle, in 7mm WSM, that looks interesting. The 7mm Remington Magnum was the first on the scene, released in 1962 in conjunction with the new Model 700 rifle. With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150, 160, 168, 180 and now 195. With my 7mm Rem Mag strapped to my backpack I ended up getting it stuck on low hanging branches way more than you would think. We shot and compared three popular options to help you decide on the best elk cartridge for your style of hunting. I am a .30 caliber guy, but the 7's are good also, with a bit less recoil.. 7mm Rem. Using the same bullet Accubonds same velocity 2950fps. The fact that it also has a milder recoil than the 300 Win Mag makes the 7mm Rem Mag a sound choice for those heading out on mountain hunting expeditions. Mag. I like short actions, so a WSM. I hunt elk with a .300 Win Mag, but 7mm Rem Mag is an excellent choice. Mag. Probably more luck than my shooting ability. Parent Case: .375 H&H Magnum 2. Like over 400 yards. Was wondering does anyone have much experience with the newer 7mm WSM (short mag) and how you think it compares to my Win mod 70 .270. The magnum is known for its hard-hitting power and ballistics when used over long ranges. Both camps have fervent followers, and both are highly effective in the game fields. Norma followed suit, releasing their .308 Norma Magnum in 1960, giving the same ballistics as the longer .300 H&H Magnum, in a long-action cartridge. More than adequate for moose and Elk, low recoil, high velocity. One of the biggest problems is with the 7mm/.284 diameter bullets, you don’t get the wound channel of a 30 cal and the 175’s are notorious for tumbling upon impact having less penetration. On the west coast, most hunters use the 7mm Rem Mag for rifle elk season, so ammo and reloading supplies are more common. I was most always hunting Deer when the Elk showed up. I could step up to a 300 magnum without question but have yet to see the need to, good ol 30-06 is already plenty enough gun by any standards. # # # Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. Kimber Montana...then 300 WSM. Mag. I went back to the .308 until I went to Africa again in late 90s and then 2004. in 99 I took a .300 Weatherby and a .375 Weatherby. As the 7mm Rem Mag is of smaller caliber than the 300 Win Mag, it is a very good choice for lighter, smaller animals. If we look at the graph, the first thing you should notice is that all ten rounds generate a pretty significant amount of recoil with all over 24ft.lbs of energy. Again, there are no flies on a 7mm. Campfire Ranger. 7mm Remington Magnum vs 300 Winchester Short Magnum. Joined Mar 2005; Posts 13693; EE Offline; FL, USA. It gave velocities previously unattainable—at least from an American cartridge—in the 7mm bore diameter, and the new rifle certainly didn’t hurt the popularity. Friday, August 31, 2018. is i worth my time to get a 7mm wsm, i am looking at getting a browning X-bolt for hunting elk in either 7mm rem mag or 7mm wsm, the rem mag has 26 inch barrel and the wsm has 23 inch barrel would that make any difference, and i noticed that there is not as many factory loads for the wsm, but i have found a few that i know will work, and i plan on learning how to reload. burnettjv, I’ve witnessed the use of both 7mm Rem Mag and 30-06 on many Bull Moose and the 30-06 definably has the edge on the 7mm Rem Mag! ...I just don't like the WSMs. The photo below does a great job of showing the differences in external … They both have the same rim diameter. If you are determined to use the 7mm bullets look at the 280 rem, 280 improved, and 284 win. Ultra Mag. I know not the answer you were looking for, but there it is. It would take a whole lot of hunting to show a … Maybe I'm more old school than I thought but definately the 7MM Rem Mag. Rifling Twist: 1:9 to 1:10 3. More Guns. I have both. Top. I liked the 300, but the 7mm WSM is a great one. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum, 7mm Remington Magnum vs. 300 Winchester Magnum, Large Mountain Lion Spotted Outside Dallas, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Head to Head: .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. Those are always the deciding factors: right bullet, right place. I've taken much game with the 308, and my Weatherby 300 Alaskan too, but that 7MM-08 is a sweet package as well, plus light on recoil. Dan360 OP. But can't decide between the 2. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. Re: 7mm STW vs 300 WBY Mag for long range elk/moose It's really a horse apiece. I’ll be hunting Deer, Elk, Hog, and Moose as well as shooting targets up to 600 yards. Mag. Within three years, we’d see the two most popular magnums appear on the shelves. No elk properly hit with either would know the difference. Both are relatively easy to handload for those who head down that road, running on a good slow-burning powder and a large rifle magnum primer, and both exhibit excellent accuracy with both factory and handloaded ammunition. Dang, you're right. Better all around for elk. The popularity of magnum cartridges is undeniable; Americans have had a long love affair with speed, and I doubt that will end anytime soon. 7MM Rem Mag. Survival. 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag. Rifle wise I'm looking at Browning X bolt hells canyon, Howa Stainless, maybe a Sako but they're pricey, or maybe even a Sauer. The 7mm RUM is really only a good option if you are shooting ultra long range. Hunting. His name wouldn't be morris by any chance? Haven't analyzed it any closer than that, but do know the percentage of recovered Partitions is low, well under 20% if I recall correctly. Mag. I am a .30 caliber guy, but the 7's are good also, with a bit less recoil.. For all practical purposes though, there isn’t a significant difference in the ballistics of the .300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag at typical hunting ranges. But, I'll take my 30-06 with a 200gr Partition or Accubond. You want to see an animal drop right now? At 500 the 7mm drops .7" less, the 300 has 142 ft lbs more energy. I have a Ruger 7mm RM made in 1976 that has accounted for several elk and a boatload of deer since it took its first animals in 1977, the darn thing is a death ray out past 500 yards and has produced several groups you could cover with a dime. 7mm Rem Mag would be my choice of those two. unseated the .264 Winchester Magnum rather quickly, becoming the darling of Western hunters. It’s been all over with me on hunting trips, including Africa, Canada and here at home. Parent Case: .30-03 Springfield 2. Location: Qu\'Appelle SASKATCHEWAN WATERFOWL HEAVEN. vs. .300 Win. I'm not a fan of WSM cartridges, but between the two, that is the one I would choose. My .300 WSM is 5" shorter than my 7mm Rem Mag was (22" barrel vs. 26" barrel plus the action is about an inch shorter). Can anyone comment. I would tell you a 7mm Rem Mag or STW was perfect for any size deer even at distance. Not a choice in the question but think a .308 is enough gun. My .300 WSM is below my head height now so I very rarely have an issue anymore. I'm not a fan of WSM cartridges, but between the two, that is the one I would choose. Some may wonder why the popular .270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag and .270 WSM did not have better showings. Based on the .404 Jeffery case the 300 Winchester Short Magnum delivers nearly identical ballistics as the famed 300 Winchester Magnum that has been around since 1962 but being a short round it can be used in short action rifles. used the 7mm alot from the 80s and for me it was a pretty hard kicker not much less than a .300 Win Mag. Mag. Comparing the two, the .300 Win. We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test. Or at least a participation certificate. The .300 Winchester Mangum has more ammunition available—as it leads a dual life, in both the hunting world and long-range target world—but every major ammunition manufacturer offers a selection of 7mm Remington Magnum ammo. 270 WSM = 400 to 500 yards 7mm WSM = 500+ 300 WSM = 500+ As someone stated earlier, most hunters do not possess the skill to shoot at these ranges. I have a 300 and 7mm WSM I use occasionally and although they work well, … Driving a 180-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2960 fps, Winchester’s .300 Mag. Survival. The 7mm WSM is similar to the .300 WSM with the case necked down to handle .284" bullets. Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'. I have been shooting 308, 30-06, 7mm Rem Mag, 270 Win and WSM for years and can shoot them all day at the range. One was a cow elk at 357 yards, free handed nothing near by to steady. Tha… Rem. Elk Cartridge Showdown: .308 Win vs. .300 Win. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent .308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the … The 7mm-08 is a bit closer to the 308 and doesn't really come close to the ballistics of the 7mm mag. vs. 7mm Rem. However, the distance from the case head to the datum line on the shoulder is longer for the 7WSM, preventing accidental chambering or firing of the .284" 7mm bullet in .270 WSM's .277" bore. There is a definite difference between the .300 Win Mag and .300 WSM with all of the .300 Win Mag rounds generating over 26ft.lbs of energy with several in the 29-32ft.lb range. 300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) Developed in the early 2000’s this nearly 20-year old cartridge is still fairly “new” to most hunters. 7mm Mashburn Super Magnum and 7mm-.300 Weatherby (both based on the belted-magnum case and required 3.600-inch length actions) failed to gain widespread acceptance. Senior Member. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent .308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the .308 Winchester. Mag. But dozens with other .300's.. Rifling Twist: 1:10 3. The 7mm … We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test It's all barrels and throats, different powder lots, minor bullet dimensions and a million other factors. I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. The logical bottom end for the .300 Winchester ranges between 130 and 150 grains, depending on bullet construction; the 7mm Rem. So i ordered a new rifle in 7mm rem mag to make into my new intermediate/long range elk rig. This question must mean you didn't get a tag this year. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure … Some with the big 7's.. 7mm rem mag vs 300 wsm Hey fellas, Currebtly looking into calibres for a long range rig I wana invest in for my next rifle. Campfire Ranger. Additionally, the .300 Win Mag has a shoulder moved further forward than the 7mm Rem Mag. Winchester recognized the demand for a high velocity, flat shooting, sub-.30-caliber cartridge and announced the .264 Winchester Magnum in 1958, chambered in the Winchester Model 70 Westerner. Posts: 2,213. ive havent recovered a 160 accubond from 11 big game animals, 7 mulies 4 elk, from 160 yards to 834 yards. Think, pronghorn, mule, and fallow deer. 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